the 'big boss' on channel 5 tonight !!

[zanner]

the excellent 'bruce lee' is on tonight in 'the big boss'... ...i love his films...sadly, 'fist of fury' was on last night & i didn't know... ...btw, 'the big boss' is listed as subtitled, i'm sure when i saw it at the cinema, it was dubbed... ...zanner.

[James Lee]

Considering its Channel 5, it's probably dubbed. When Channel 4 showed it in 2002, it was the Cantonese re-issue with subs.
I love this film - if only the uncut version could be released!

[zanner]

Considering its Channel 5, it's probably dubbed. When Channel 4 showed it in 2002, it was the Cantonese re-issue with subs.
I love this film - if only the uncut version could be released!

is this not uncut then james... ...it deffo says 'subtitles' on the listing... ...zanner.

[irons]

Channel 5 are having a bit of a kung fu weekend. On Sunday night they're showing Jackie Chan's 'Who Am I?', followed by a Bruce Lee documentary, then 'Enter The Dragon', then a 'lost' interview with Bruce.

PS, zanner. There's been rumours of a complete print of The Big Boss, including the infamous saw throu the head scene, but nobody's been able to find it yet.

[zanner]

i'll watch all of them... ...zanner.

[James Lee]

The version of The Big Boss currently avaliable is about 5-10min shorter than the version that premiered in Hong Kong in 1971

See this link for what's missing

http://littledragon.builtfree.org/boss.html

It's been rumoured that Fred Weintraub - producer of Enter The Dragon and Battle Creek Brawl - has an uncut print in his possession

[zanner]

The version of The Big Boss currently avaliable is about 5-10min shorter than the version that premiered in Hong Kong in 1971

See this link for what's missing

http://littledragon.builtfree.org/boss.html

It's been rumoured that Fred Weintraub - producer of Enter The Dragon and Battle Creek Brawl - has an uncut print in his possession

thanks for the interesting link james... ...lets mail weintraub and ask him... ...zanner.

[SicCoyote]

Sounds a bit like one of those myths but whatever.

the film is available in 3 flavours,

1:Original Mandarin Dub
2:Original English Dub
3:Re-Release Cantonese Dub with added Bruce Lee shrieks taken from Enter The Dragon.

[zanner]

Sounds a bit like one of those myths but whatever.

the film is available in 3 flavours,

1:Original Mandarin Dub
2:Original English Dub
3:Re-Release Cantonese Dub with added Bruce Lee shrieks taken from Enter The Dragon.

very tasty... ...zanner.

[James Lee]

4 flavours.

There are TWO English dubs: the one done in HK with the usual voices you hear in those old HK films and the one done for the US/UK release by US actors, with a new score by Peter Thomas. Curiously, if you listen to the English track on the HKL DVD, its the US dub apart from the scene where Bruce is done by the river contemplating revenge where its the HK English dub!

BTW, Bey Logan has left HKL to work for - NO!!! - Harvey Weinstein

[SicCoyote]

I call my brother Bey Logan COS HE WON'T STOP TALKING ALL THE WAY THROUGH ABOUT THE MOVIES WHILE I'M JUST TRYING TO WATCH THEM!

[TheGriz]

The saw scene form BIG BOSS has never been available in any print.

Bey "More knowledge on HK films than any one man should have" Logan has dismissed this myth a 1000 times over.

The still exists but it was never put in any print.

[irons]

Dunno about that TheGriz. I know fans that swear that an uncut print, with the saw scene was shown in London in the late 70's. Could just be wishful thinking thou.

[Mark Y]

Dunno about that TheGriz. I know fans that swear that an uncut print, with the saw scene was shown in London in the late 70's. Could just be wishful thinking thou.

See the link above. Sounds like a job for Mark Kermode!

[SicCoyote]

Very interesting, but it would seem that the scenes aren't ever going to turn up, shame, that saw bit looks gruesome.

[Mark Y]

The saw in the head scene was obviously filmed. I've just checked my HKL disc and the shot should have appeared at 1:18:30 approx when Lee brandishes the saw he has just picked up off the floor, but there is a cut to another shot. The trailer included on the disc includes snippets of some deleted footage, including the visit to the second prostitute.

[James Lee]

It was definetly in the original release cause the HK press mentioned it in the reviews. A year or two later, HK censors began cutting kung fu films for violence - One Armed Boxer and All Men Are Brothers are examples

[James Lee]

Told ya it'd be dubbed tonight!

[Mr_Bungle]

HK censors even cut Bruce's Way of the Dragon, removing the 3rd kick to Chuck Norris's head at the end.

[zanner]

all these damn cuts...tis a shame... ...zanner.