Fave Cannibal Film

[Angel]

Cannibal Apocalypse for me.

[CJ34]

I tried to get my head around that above post CJ but all I could come up with was you see it as *unreal* because it is not on your own doorstep so to speak perhaps ? and because it is a long way away in say another country it does not affect you that way as your not involved and maybe that is why,maybe similar to some who see starving kids in Africa and the like.

No, what I mean is I acknowledge that it's real and unpleasant, but because it's already done and nothing can change that, I don't find myself emotionally challenged by it. Morally I know it's wrong and inexcusable, but as I said, it's a done deal. It's shocking, but I don't find myself emotional over it. The animal violence is a part of the fabric of these films now - the choice is yours as to view or not. Hope that clears things up a bit.

[SimonT]

Im suprised Cannibal Ferox hasn't got more votes.

[CJ34]

Cannibal Ferox, sans animal cruelty, is just a very nasty jungle adventure. Aside from that it's just....rubbish..?

At least Cannibal Holocaust is trying to do something. It's provocative - and deliberately so.

[SicCoyote]

Na it's not bad (having watched it recently for the first time in years.

I think the problem is there's probably the ones who like the extreme ones like Holo and Ferox, and those who like the others, but if you're going to go for one of the extreme ones people are going to go for ferox.

I don't think an animal should be killed to make a film I'm watching.

But that argument is a bit hard to make when I had one killed to make my mid-film snack.

[muntersaur]

Cannibal Holocaust is far out the best in my opinion with Eaten Alive a distant second followed by Cannibal Ferox in third.

[Someone Weird]

Cannibal Ferox...is just a very nasty jungle adventure

I disagree in a way. There are some nasty ideas in it, but the execution of the film makes it more cheesy and cartoonish than nasty. For me, 'Ferox' is a jolly jungle romp. Some fun gore and plenty of laughs.

[Vaughan]

Cannibal Ferox, sans animal cruelty, is just a very nasty jungle adventure. Aside from that it's just....rubbish..?

At least Cannibal Holocaust is trying to do something. It's provocative - and deliberately so.

Whoa -that's a very fine line! CH failed to make it's point because it wallowed in what it was supposed to be attacking - while Ferox just acknowledged: Nah, this is exploitation. Either way, what we see on screen is the same.

I'm stopping now before we get into a ISOYG debate.

[SimonT]

Cannibal Ferox, sans animal cruelty, is just a very nasty jungle adventure. Aside from that it's just....rubbish..?

At least Cannibal Holocaust is trying to do something. It's provocative - and deliberately so.

I would actually agree with that, the whole film just reeked of stupidity.

If your trying to avoid blood thirsty cannibals, the last place you decide to stay in is their village

Plus, where did these cannibals get machetes, iron hooks etc?

Also, John Morghen's character runs very well through dense jungle considering he's just been castrated

[CJ34]

Ah yes, dear John Morghen. How many body parts does he have to lose before they finish him off? I mean, come on, it's very Monty Python - first they castrate him, then cut his arm off and finally gets the top of his head lopped off. Poor bloke. I know he's the bad guy, but honestly, I don't think his punishment is equal to his crimes. Or is it? I don't dislike Ferox, as I think there's plenty to enjoy in that one. But Holocaust is easily the better film IMO.

Vaughan: No, let's not get into another ISOYG debate.

[Gattaca]

Ah yes, dear John Morghen. How many body parts does he have to lose before they finish him off? I mean, come on, it's very Monty Python - first they castrate him, then cut his arm off and finally gets the top of his head lopped off.

Obviously it was a mere scratch.

[cloud]

Cannibal Ferox for me, I like all the films listed but this one is the most enjoyable.

CAMPEONES, CAMPEONES, OLE OLE OLE.

[Wayne]

Cannibal Ferox for me too, I think it was one of the first Cannibal films I saw and it stuck with me the most.

[Hong Kong Fulci]

For me, Cannibal Holocaust is the very definition of horror. And what a soundtrack!

Ferox is good too and contains some of the greatest quotes of all time!

[jacksmith1983]

No, what I mean is I acknowledge that it's real and unpleasant, but because it's already done and nothing can change that, I don't find myself emotionally challenged by it. Morally I know it's wrong and inexcusable, but as I said, it's a done deal. It's shocking, but I don't find myself emotional over it. The animal violence is a part of the fabric of these films now - the choice is yours as to view or not. Hope that clears things up a bit.

Cannibal Ferox, sans animal cruelty, is just a very nasty jungle adventure. Aside from that it's just....rubbish..?

At least Cannibal Holocaust is trying to do something. It's provocative - and deliberately so.

Whoa -that's a very fine line! CH failed to make it's point because it wallowed in what it was supposed to be attacking - while Ferox just acknowledged: Nah, this is exploitation. Either way, what we see on screen is the same.

I'm coming down on Vaughan's side here, and no it's not because we're both mods either...

For those that don't follow the international news it may be worthwhile pointing out that there was recently widespread outcry worldwide over an "art" exhibit staged by Costa Rican eccentric Guillermo Vargas who has taken to tethering up an emaciated dog at a Nicaraguan art gallery and forcing it to go without food and water while visitors come in for a good gawp at the poor creatures plight.

Vargas has reportedly received many death threats over this stunt yet insists that his stunt has artistic merit and is aimed at measuring public reactions.

You might question the relevance of this to the debate about the cruelty seen in Cannibal Holocaust and Cannibal Ferox, but really I think it nicely underlines the fact that the public - for the most part - don't care whether it is being committed in the name of art or exploitation. To most it's needless cruel and callous treatment of a living creature either way.

Does Deodato utilize the scenes of animal snuff in a more memorable and effective manner than what Lenzi did? To me the answer without question is yes. However, for me that doesn't make me inclined to defend Deodato's actions during the shooting of Cannibal Holocaust anymore so than I would Lenzi's during the making of Cannibal Ferox

Moving on to the other aspects of the debate I also agree that the violence and gore in Ferox whilst extreme is actually quite comic book and unconvincing. The systematic manner in which Morgen gets castrated then gets his arm lopped off then finally gets his skull hacked open whilst terrific fun is not especially convincing or realistic.

As brutally sadistic as Ferox is I could never describe it as a particularly disturbing film.

[Gattaca]

Most (if not all ) Cannibal films have animal cruelty in them (other than BBFC approved versions of course!!) personally taking those out can only be a good thing ? I do not have any problem if it is faked but using real living animals and killing/torturing them purely for entertainment sake is just plain cruel and I would support the BBFC on their guidelines for that.

[phil]

However, for me that doesn't make me inclined to defend Deodato's actions during the shooting of Cannibal Holocaust anymore so than I would Lenzi's during the making of Cannibal Ferox

I don’t think anyone here is defending the use of animal killings by either Deodato or Lenzi, but I do think people watch the two movies for different reasons. I don’t think many of us stick on CH for “a bit of a laugh” but we do with Ferox. The violence in Ferox is certainly more comic-book than CH but, for me, that doesn’t make the animal stuff in Ferox humorous as well nor does it make it easier to watch. For trashy entertainment I almost never put on a cannibal flick because I know there’s animal stuff in it and it’ll spoil the fun.

[SicCoyote]

there was recently widespread outcry worldwide over an "art" exhibit staged by Costa Rican eccentric Guillermo Vargas who has taken to tethering up an emaciated dog at a Nicaraguan art gallery and forcing it to go without food and water while visitors come in for a good gawp at the poor creatures plight.

Vargas has reportedly received many death threats over this stunt yet insists that his stunt has artistic merit and is aimed at measuring public reactions.

Just to side-track the discussion a little I think that the artists point about the exhibit has some merit. That this kind of thing is happening to hundreds of dogs all the time on the streets and everyone just ignores it. But put it in an exhibit and suddenly everyone's up in arms about one dog. Shows up the hypocrisy of the proletariat.

The same could be said about Cannibal Ferox (not sure about Holocaust) even more so because it happened so long ago.

[Grant]

I thought that story had been debunked already. I read that he just tethered up a stray street dog for a couple of hours, embellished the story, posted it on the internet and there you go, Worldwide outrage.

[SicCoyote]

Ah should have known, like every other thing posted to me by women.