Die Hard 4.0 / Live Free or Die Hard (Len Wiseman, 2007)

[Grant]

Seems that John McClane is returning for a fourth adventure. Surely Bruce is getting a bit old for this s....

[john]

Let's see... alien ressurection, superman IV, jaws the revenge, sudden impact... it dosen't bode well for live free or die hard does it? Hopefully the fourth mad max film will never get off the ground!

[Grant]

Lets not forget Batman and Robin and Airport 79: concorde either....

[zanner]

it should be called LIVE FREE AND USE A ZIMMER...

[NPC]

Don't forget the horror that was Lethal Weapon 4. Hopefully they'll be able to find a stunt man that looks like Bruce Willis, unlike Gibson's stand in. At least he can actually act (I still like Death Becomes Her) and two decent performances from him recently, 16 Blocks and Sin City. Action stars should really retire from that sort of thing at 50, Ahnholdt looked positively ancient in Terminator 3. Len Wiseman to direct? His career seems solely based on his missus in PVC. Truly lousy title as well. I wonder who the obligatory Brit villain will be?

[Rissos]

. . . Hopefully the fourth mad max film will never get off the ground!

Mel Gibson is not proving popular in the US at the moment, so I wouldn't expect to see him for a while!

[Peter Neal]

I don't know...From the other "Part 4" contenders, I wouldn't consider "Sudden Impact" a bad entry in the Dirty Harry franchise, actually my favourite part after the original. Lethal Weapon 4 and Death Wish 4 are both way better than their preceeding parts Nr. 3 and when we get to horror, number 4 went quite well for Halloween, Friday,the 13th and even A Nightmare on Elm Street, considering what came before (and after).
Ah well...Bruce Willis won me back with his excellent performance in "16 Blocks"...If he follows the road of gracefully aging action stars like Clint Eastwood, this could turn out to be quite interesting.

[NPC]

Trailer http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/livefreeordiehard.html Doesn't look bad but will it have the feel of the other three films or be just another action film?

[orgasmo]

Ive just read horrible awful rumours that the films going to be a pg-13 rateing.
lets just hope this is all just internet bull****
if not its alien vs predeter all over again.
its stuff like this which has made me all but turn my back on hollywood.

[DJM]

Ive just read horrible awful rumours that the films going to be a pg-13 rateing.
lets just hope this is all just internet bull****
if not its alien vs predeter all over again.
its stuff like this which has made me all but turn my back on hollywood.

Catering to that all important teen audience!
The content is what matters though really, not the rating. It could have a (UK) 18-rating and have a poor story, script and acting and in the end be a poor film. It could have the PG-13 rating though and be a fun action movie (unlikely but possible)! An adult rating doesn't mean it is going to be a good movie!

[WaveCrest]

I don't know...From the other "Part 4" contenders, I wouldn't consider "Sudden Impact" a bad entry in the Dirty Harry franchise, actually my favourite part after the original. Lethal Weapon 4 and Death Wish 4 are both way better than their preceeding parts Nr. 3 and when we get to horror, number 4 went quite well for Halloween, Friday,the 13th and even A Nightmare on Elm Street, considering what came before (and after).
Ah well...Bruce Willis won me back with his excellent performance in "16 Blocks"...If he follows the road of gracefully aging action stars like Clint Eastwood, this could turn out to be quite interesting.

Not jumping the bandwagon, but I agree. Sudden Impact is one of my favourites in the Dirty Harry series.

Death Wish 4 was a decent entry in the series. Halloween 4 is one of my favourite sequels and The Final Chapter (aka Friday the 13th Part 4) is one of the better F13th sequels.

I'm hoping Live Free or Die Hard (agree about the title not being very good) does well. I really liked the first two, but the third one with Samuel L Jackson and Jeremy Irons I wasn't fond of.

[Vaughan]

The synopsis for this one looks a bit..... weak: "When a criminal plot is in place to take down the entire computer and technological structure that supports the economy of the United States (and the world), it's up to a decidedly "old school" hero, police detective John McClane (Willis), to take down the conspiracy, aided by a young hacker (Long)."

But I suppose once things start blowing up, and the guns begin shooting, it'll all be good. Love these films, so it's a no brainer.

[the dude]

I watched Die Hard again on Christmas Eve. They cannot make the 4th film a PG-13. It would ruin the character of John McClane. He likes to say the 'F' word a lot and the action is violent. This had better be an R rated film.

Still looking forward to it though

[orgasmo]

you can say that again.

[Grant]

Just watched the trailer for this on Wossie. Now known as Die Hard 4.0 (? - is the dvd release gonna be 4.1 then?). Lots of CGI action including a car crashing into a helicopter mid-air, it looked a bit like the first Fantastic Four movie. Oh yeah the whitehouse gets blown up too!

It looked as though it were some game tie-in tbh.

[WaveCrest]

I saw the trailer (it could have been a second trailer with more footage) for the first time at the end of Film 2007 a few Mondays ago. Pretty good although at the moment I'm thinking McClane's young sidekick isn't very believable.

[O_Lucky_Dan]

Would much prefer Unbreakable 2 or Last Boy Scout 2, at this end (as if.)

The thought of a CGI-infested, PG-rated Die Hard chills me to the bone. I'm a Bruce-liker and he deserves more.

[Peter Neal]

Catering to that all important teen audience!
The content is what matters though really, not the rating. It could have a (UK) 18-rating and have a poor story, script and acting and in the end be a poor film. It could have the PG-13 rating though and be a fun action movie (unlikely but possible)! An adult rating doesn't mean it is going to be a good movie!

As evidenced by "16 Blocks", which got generously low ratings in various corners of the globe.

But considering this is a "DIE Hard" movie (the second one still pretty much up there with the finest crop of "Highest body count in an action movie ever!" contenders ), I also expect a certain degree of messy-bloody slam bang shoot outs and fighting. As long as they don't go below the "violent action content" of (the already considerably tame) "Die Hard with A Vengenance", it'll be fine for me.

IF this really comes out as a PG-13, it doesn't take a scientist's brain to figure out that "extra strong unrated version" just waiting around the corner....

[NPC]

Full trailer's up at http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/livefreeordiehard.html Looks like good mindless fun, F22 Raptor V truck. Yippee ki ay..... should mean an R rating. Liked the "you just killed a helicopter with a car" "I was out of bullets" Looking forward to seeing what Timothy Olyphant's like as filming has started on the Hitman film and this is one videogame adaptation I really hope they don't stuff up

[the dude]

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